08 September 2010

Burn a Koran day?!

This big hullabaloo with the Koran burning seems to be right on topic for this blog. Three guesses where I stand. :)

What in the flaming hell are these bastards thinking?! Of course, it's all about publicity, the ultimate vanity. The ultimate vanity in the name of God. Talk about using the name of God in vain! (That's what that means, btw. Not randomly shouting "JESUS CHRIST!" when you hit your finger with a hammer. In fact, since Jesus's dad was a carpenter, I find it oddly appropriate.) Using God, using Jesus, to further your own vain cause, is a violation of the very spirit of the commandment. It's sickening. And of course, that's what they're doing. They're trying to drum up publicity for their church, by being actively evil. They're going to get a lot of innocent people killed (there goes 'thou shalt not kill'), and it'll be on them entirely. Well them and the fucking media for carrying this clusterfuck. Seriously. If the MSM would just shut the fuck up about these little fringe groups and their stunts, no one would hear about them and they'd go away. Not to mention, they'd keep a lot of soldiers and other innocent people safe.

By burning the Korans, they know they'll inflame the radicals to violence. Then they can say, "Look how violent they are!" But the radicals that would kill people in the name of Allah are no different from the radicals who would show up armed at a Koran burning so they can "protect" Christians from protesters. As Boris said at The Galloping Beaver, if this was an armed Muslim group, they'd be branded terrorists. Of course, he's absolutely right!

Using the Koran to promote hatred, to justify killing people for any reason (including that vile case in Iran that Dawg explained so well) is evil. Using the Bible to promote hatred, to justify killing people for any reason, is evil.

God is Love. God doesn't hate. Not anyone. Not for any reason.


Skinny Dipper said...

There is a contradiction in the United States and Alaska (USA). Americans do not want to see these lunatics burn the Koran, yet some/many do not want to see a mosque or Islamic/Muslim community centre be built near ground-zero in New York City.

Don't burn the Koran in Florida even though Americans don't want it near ground zero.

Steven Carr said...

Chapter 111 of tke Koran is about burning a non-Muslim.

The power of Abu Lahab will perish, and he will perish.
Abu Lahab will die and be plunged in flaming Fire. His wife will have on her neck a halter of palm fiber.
His wealth and gains will not exempt him.
He will be plunged in flaming Fire,
And his wife, the wood-carrier,
Will have upon her neck a halter of palm-fibre.

Is it as wrong to burn a person as it is to burn the Koran?

I think it is just as wrong to burn a person as it is to burn the Koran.

In fact, it might even be more wrong.

Although obviously I respect the right of Muslims to publish books saying certain people should be burned in Hell.

Steven Carr said...

I should add that I also respect the rights of Muslims to quote the Koran, and would never censor the Koran, or refuse to quote part of it.

Luna said...

Steven: The Bible also has directions on who to kill and how. What is your point exactly?

And I'd say that part of the Koran is up for interpretation. Like, oh, most of it and the Bible too. To me, that sounds like GOD will be the one doing the torturous killing, not like directions for the believers. Unlike God telling Moses:

"...'Take all the heads of the people and hang them up before the LORD against the sun, that the fierce anger of the LORD may be turned away from Israel.'" (Numbers 25:3-4)

So unless you're saying that all religions and religious books are equally bloodlusty, I see no point to what you're saying.

Steven Carr said...

Luna is correct.

The Old and New Testament do indeed have examples of people burning.

If you write a book which explains how enemies are going to be burned, you will be writing the Word of God.

If you burn a book, you are a monster.

Personally, I would no more burn the Koran than I would claim that a book was Holy when it devotes space to descriptions of how enemies are going to be burned.

But I am in a minority when it comes to praising books describing people burning. Most of the world sees nothing wrong with such books.

Luna said...

Steven, I'm sorry you feel that way.

The reason I'm okay with all of it, is that I am able to recognise it in a historical perspective, as myth and oral history. As metaphor and divinely-inspired writing. As flawed by humans.

And I'm not in the minority. The vast majority of Christians aren't literalists. And the ones who are, aren't truly aware of what they're saying. Other than the odd sociopath. But they're everywhere, not just in religious circles.

Steven Carr said...

I don't take it literally when the Bible says Jesus was good, either.

Luna said...

I see. And what is your reason for that?