30 September 2009

Whoopi Goldberg, rape apologist

My thoughts on Roman Polanski are pretty much the same as the ones here. If you're too lazy to click through, the gist is "He's a rapist. Hello! Rape. Child. Not okay. Not even if he made good movies."

EDIT: Well, it looks like I owe someone an apology. Ms. Goldberg, and loyal readers (all 12 of you), I apologise. Goldberg's words were taken out of context. She was refering to the the charge against Polanski, saying that it wasn't a rape-rape charge, but rather a statutory rape charge. I was busy today and didn't go to the source. My apologies.

Whoopi Goldberg, who is now on the same list I put Mel Gibson and Michael Richards on, said this, "I know it wasn't rape-rape. It was something else but I don't believe it was rape-rape. He went to jail and and when they let him out he was like, 'You know what, this guy's going to give me a hundred years in jail. I'm not staying.' So that's why he left."**

"Rape-rape"?! Are you fucking kidding me? So what? It was unrape? It was not quite entirely unlike rape? What in the bloody hell is she on about?! That only stranger rape is legitimate? The girl was THIRTEEN! She was unable to consent. And furtherfuckingmore, SHE DID NOT CONSENT! That is rape, no matter how you hyphenate it.

**there are a few errors and omissions in that article, not the least of which is that Goldberg is a host of The View, not a guest, and that she isn't the only one on the show with such shitty ideas.

edited to fix crappy editing.


Robert McClelland said...

Whoopi's comments were in regards to the charge that Polanski was convicted of. It's wasn't a defense of what he did.

Luna said...

How do you call, "It wasn't rape-rape" anything but a defense of what he did?

Robert McClelland said...
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Robert McClelland said...

Go watch what she actually said. What these smearmongers--and Big Hollywood is one of them--are leaving out is the part that followed.

"When we're talking about what someone did and what they were charged with, we have to say what it actually was. Not what we think it was."

That's what Whoopi was talking about. Her "rape-rape comment was in relation to the type of charge not the act. And if you watch the segment long enough you'll she gets confirmation that Polanski plea bargained down to a lesser charge of "unlawful sex with a minor".

CK said...

I always knew Hollywood in general had a fucked up code of ethics. Anytime they end up before criminal courts or even get arrested, it's always a very strange circus; even stranger than the stories they portray on film & TV or do music videos about.
Everybody gets mesmerized about these stars & no one wants to believe they're guilty.
I heard that the victim herself has said she didn't wish to proceed with this. Another symptom of the Hollywood or others of the rich & famous machine: was she paid off or did she fall into believing that because the world loves Roman Polanski she thinks she shouldn't press ahead?? Who knows?
What Whoopi Goldberg said was not only irresponsable, but quite stupid. "Rape-rape"??? But, people eat this up with a spoon.
I hope he does get prosecuted but I ain't holdin' my breath.

CK said...

Oh, another example of Hollywood nuts: I also read somewhere that Woody Allen provided a character reference...didn't he marry his daughter??

Luna said...

Holy crap. You're right, Robert. I apologise, and will retract my commentary.

Luna said...

Oh and thank you, Robert.

Children7 said...

Whoopi Goldberg IS a rape appologist. First of all, a 13 year old is INCAPABLE of giving consent. Why doesn't she say the truth-Polanski is a CHILD MOLESTER! "rape-rape"? I don't care who you are, rape is rape is rape! The child never gave her consent. No matter WHAT, when an adult has intercourse with a THIRTEEN year old girl, it is RAPE_RAPE! She also disbelieves the Cosby accusers. Defends Cosby although he currently has over 30 women accusing him of rape. He has thanked Goldbert on his Facebook page. When Beverly Johnson was on The View, Golberg asked her, basically, why she didn't go to the hospital right away? Implying that she was using drugs as far as I can tell.

" March 1977, film director Roman Polanski was arrested and charged in Los Angeles with five offenses against Samantha Gailey, a 13-year-old girl[1] – rape by use of drugs, perversion, sodomy, lewd and lascivious act upon a child under 14, and furnishing a controlled substance to a minor.[2] At his arraignment Polanski pleaded not guilty to all charges,[3] but later accepted a plea bargain whose terms included dismissal of the five initial charges[4] in exchange for a guilty plea to the lesser charge of " something that is not, in Goldberg's words 'Rape-rape'. Nobdy uses those words except a rape appologist. This is a CHILD molester. What does it mean when a women says that an adult having sex with a child is, according to the law, not 'rape-rape'? Would you EVER say that? OR think it????

Children7 said...

Go to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZskUvAGyjQ
and start at about 2.05.
Here Whoppi suggests that we don't see 13 or 14 year olds the same way that Europeans do-that they see them more as 'adults', at least that is where she is heading.....she is defending Polaski here. Her entire focus through out is DEFENDING him. And her suggestion that it's not 'rape-rape' when an adult has sex with a THIRTEEN year old is horrendous. She supports rape culture. I don't understand, she INVARIABLY takes the side of the rapist, child molester, and says, "Wait a minute. Maybe it's not true. Maybe it wasn't really rape." Talking about a CHILD. If she isn't a rape appologist, I don't know who is.

Luna said...

Hi @Children7.

Yes, I completely agree with you that she's off her nut about Cosby. I have no idea who Beverly Johnson is, and am not aware of that.

Okay. As for rape-rape and rape being rape. Here's the thing: She was trying to distinguish between the legal terms for rape and statutory rape. YES. They are absolutely both rape. YES, Polanski is a child molester, and I will never ever let a cent of my money go toward his pockets.

I do see your point, and how you could come to that conclusion on that statement alone. Given her recent bullshit, I think you may be right. At the time, from her words alone, and the video alone, I concluded she was trying to say what he was charged with and distinguish it *legally* from the crime of rape of an adult. At the time, out of the recent context, I could see how she could say that and not be a rape apologist. Unfortunately, she's proven herself otherwise in other situations. :(